Interaction · Religious actions
Beseech a Title
Ask the recipient to proclaim an uncreated Title standing De Jure above your own lands, and to place it in your hands
What you need
You
To send it
- Is at not War
- If your government is not a Theocratic-type Government: … must either: Have a Level of Devotion of Devoted Servant or higher · Have a Realm Priest Puppet · Have a Clerical Ruler Puppet
- Otherwise: Piety level at least 1
- Is landed
- Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated
- Your primary title:
is_landless_type_title = no
- You must not be a Vassal of …, who can grant you Titles by regular means
- You must be independent or at least two Ranks below …
- Does not have the Modifier: Promised Pilgrimage
- An uncreated Title that is De Jure above a title you hold must: Have no Holder · Be of your Tier or one Tier higher · Have at least a third of its Counties in your Realm and professing ⟨faith⟩
- In some cases (on a condition the game doesn't show) › You:
piety >= pam_request_unformed_title_piety_cost_value
- The target:
is_landless_type_title = no- Is not the Head of Faith
- Title tier more than County
- Title tier at least scope:puppet or actor.highest held title tier
- Any direct de jure vassal title:
holder ?= scope:puppet_or_actor
Also needed: available (not incapable, not imprisoned)
To see it in the menu
- Highest held Title is at least County Rank
- Is landed
- Your faith: Does not have a Doctrine or Tenet with Prevents Tribal Rulers from changing Government type · Grants the Unreformed Pagan Combat Advantage
One of these
- Your faith: Has a Doctrine or Tenet with The position of Head of Faith is given to a prominent clergy member
or
Your rite: The rite has Temple Holdings are leased out to their Holder's Realm Priest, who then serves them as a Theocratic Vassal
- Your government is not a Theocratic-type Government
- Highest held Title is less than Empire Rank
- Is a ruler
- Is not at war with the target
- Any held title › Their de jure liege:
- Title tier less than Hegemony
is_landless_type_title = no
The character you target
To send it
- Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated
- Piety level at least 2
- Highest held Title is at least Duchy Rank
- Their faith is the same as that of puppet or actor
If
NOT = { root.religious_head_or_challenger ?= this }
Then
- Is of the same rite as you
Also needed: available (not incapable, not imprisoned, a ruler, an adult)
To see it in the menu
One of these
scope:puppet_or_actor.religious_head_or_challenger = thisor
Government is Ecclesiastical
- Their faith is the same as that of puppet or actor
Which title you can pick
- The target:
is_landless_type_title = no- Is not the Head of Faith
- Title tier more than County
- … already has a Holder
- Hegemony-Tier Titles cannot be beseeched from the Clergy
- You may only beseech Titles of your own Tier or a single tier higher
- You must hold a Title that belongs De Jure directly to …
- At least a third of … Counties must lie within your Realm and follow ⟨faith⟩
If
- The target: Title tier exactly Empire
Then
- You cannot gain an Empire while involved in the Iberian Struggle
Beseech a Title is a religious character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: Is at not War, Is available (not incapable, not imprisoned), Is landed and 5 more. The character you target needs: Is available (not incapable, not imprisoned, a ruler, an adult), Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated, Piety level at least 2 and 2 more. Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Reasons the AI weighs include Enjoys the Church's favor (+25), Weak Hook used (+200), Donation (+50) and 46 more. It costs Piety (from 500). It needs By God Alone. Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.
Quick answers (3)
- What are the requirements for Beseech a Title in CK3?
- You: Is at not War, Is available (not incapable, not imprisoned), Is landed, Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated, You must not be a Vassal of …, who can grant you Titles by regular means, You must be independent or at least two Ranks below …, Does not have the Modifier: Promised Pilgrimage and An uncreated Title that is De Jure above a title you hold must: • Have no Holder • Be of your Tier or one Tier higher • Have at least a third of its Counties in your Realm and professing ⟨faith⟩. The character you target: Is available (not incapable, not imprisoned, a ruler, an adult), Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated, Piety level at least 2, Highest held Title is at least Duchy Rank and Their faith is the same as that of puppet or actor. (patch 1.20.1.2)
- How do I get the AI to accept Beseech a Title?
- Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Its reasons: Enjoys the Church's favor +25, Weak Hook used +200, Offer a Hook, Donation +50, Vow to cleanse it from the heathens +75, Offer Pilgrimage, You … their Liege +25, You … of their House +30, The recipient is your Close Family +50, Same Dynasty +15, You are their House Head +50, You are their Dynasty Head +25, You … one or more exceptionally pious Traits +100, You … one or more pious Traits +30, You … Virtuous Traits, … Opinion of …, Your Level of Devotion, Allied +40, You … the recipient's friend +30, You … the recipient's best friend +60, Intimidated by you, Terrified of you, Is your Realm Priest Puppet +100, You have no Realm Priest Puppet -50, You have immoral Traits or a low Level of Devotion, You have wicked Traits, Is your Rival -200, Your Tyranny, Your zealousness, Head of Faith +100, Head of Rite +50, You belong to different Rites -20, The recipient's compatibility with … +25, The recipient's compatibility with … -25, The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenet -100, The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenet -40, The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenet -60, You are above your Domain Limit, You are above your Vassal Limit -20, Your small Realm for your Tier +40, Your modest Realm for your Tier +20, Your sizeable Realm for your Tier -15, Your sizeable Realm for your Tier -30, Your immense Realm for your Tier -45, Your immense Realm for your Tier -60, Your immense Realm for your Tier -75, Your immense Realm for your Tier -100, Your immense Realm for your Tier -150, Your immense Realm for your Tier -200, Your immense Realm for your Tier -250, Your immense Realm for your Tier -300, Your immense Realm for your Tier -400, The recipient covets your hoarded Gold -60, This is wicked Simony -50, You have the Uncrowned Law -75, You ask for a Rank above your own, You already rule part of the target +40, You already rule most of the target +40, You already rule all of the target +70, The target is not yet firmly … -50, Your low Legitimacy -150, Your low Legitimacy -25 and Your high Legitimacy.
- How much does Beseech a Title cost?
- Piety (from 500) (patch 1.20.1.2).
Will they accept?
Accepted automatically when:
- They use their Hook on …
Otherwise the AI adds these up and accepts above zero. Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.
| Reason | Amount |
|---|---|
| Base | -100 |
| Enjoys the Church's favor | +25 |
Weak Hook usedwhen
| +200 |
Offer a Hookwhen
| your highest held title tier × 20 |
Donationwhen
| +50 |
Vow to cleanse it from the heathenswhen
| +75 |
Offer Pilgrimagewhen
| pam_offer_pilgrimage_acceptance_value |
You … their Liegewhen
| +25 |
You … of their Housewhen
| +30 |
The recipient is your Close Familywhen
| +50 |
Same Dynastywhen
| +15 |
You are their House Headwhen
| +50 |
You are their Dynasty Headwhen
| +25 |
You … one or more exceptionally pious Traitswhen
| +100 |
You … one or more pious Traitswhen
| +30 |
You … Virtuous Traitswhen
| varies |
| … Opinion of … | varies |
Your Level of Devotionwhen
| varies |
Alliedwhen
| +40 |
You … the recipient's friendwhen
| +30 |
You … the recipient's best friendwhen
| +60 |
Intimidated by youwhen
| varies |
Terrified of youwhen
| varies |
Is your Realm Priest Puppetwhen
| +100 |
You have no Realm Priest Puppetwhen
| -50 |
| You have immoral Traits or a low Level of Devotion | varies |
| You have wicked Traits | varies |
Is your Rivalwhen
| -200 |
Your Tyrannywhen
| your tyranny × -2 |
Your zealousnesswhen
| varies |
| Head of Faith | +100 |
Head of Ritewhen
| +50 |
You belong to different Riteswhen
| -20 |
The recipient's compatibility with …when
| +25 |
The recipient's compatibility with …when
| -25 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenetwhen
| -100 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenetwhen
| -40 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenetwhen
| -60 |
You are above your Domain Limitwhen
| varies |
You are above your Vassal Limitwhen
| -20 |
Your small Realm for your Tierwhen
| +40 |
Your modest Realm for your Tierwhen
| +20 |
Your sizeable Realm for your Tierwhen
| -15 |
Your sizeable Realm for your Tierwhen
| -30 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -45 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -60 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -75 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -100 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -150 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -200 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -250 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -300 |
Your immense Realm for your Tierwhen
| -400 |
The recipient covets your hoarded Goldwhen
| -60 |
This is wicked Simonywhen
| -50 |
| You have the Uncrowned Law | -75 |
A scripted reasonwhen
| +30 |
You ask for a Rank above your ownwhen
| varies |
You already rule part of the targetwhen
| +40 |
You already rule most of the targetwhen
| +40 |
You already rule all of the targetwhen
| +70 |
The target is not yet firmly …when
| -50 |
Your low Legitimacywhen
| -150 |
Your low Legitimacywhen
| -25 |
Your high Legitimacywhen
| varies |
Acceptance (ai_accept) (135 lines of game script)
base = -100
modifier = {
desc = pam_sf_ear_of_clergy_accept_reason
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
has_character_modifier = pam_sf_ear_of_clergy_modifier
}
add = 25
}
modifier = {
desc = SCHEME_WEAK_HOOK_USED
scope:use_hook = yes
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
NOT = {
has_strong_hook = scope:recipient
}
}
add = 200
}
modifier = {
desc = OFFER_HOOK_INTERACTION_OPTION_REASON
scope:offer_hook = yes
add = {
value = scope:puppet_or_actor.highest_held_title_tier
multiply = 20
}
}
modifier = {
desc = DONATE_FAITH_INTERACTION_OPTION_REASON
scope:donate_faith = yes
add = 50
}
modifier = {
desc = PROMISE_HOLY_WAR_INTERACTION_OPTION_REASON
scope:promise_holy_war = yes
add = 75
}
modifier = {
add = pam_offer_pilgrimage_acceptance_value
scope:offer_pilgrimage = yes
desc = OFFER_PILGRIMAGE_INTERACTION_OPTION_REASON
}
general_secular_to_ecclesiastic_acceptance_modifier = yes
modifier = {
desc = request_unformed_title_tier_above_own_reason
exists = scope:target
scope:target = {
tier >= tier_kingdom
tier > scope:puppet_or_actor.highest_held_title_tier
}
add = {
value = scope:target.tier
subtract = 3
multiply = -50
}
}
modifier = {
desc = request_unformed_title_partly_controls_target_reason
exists = scope:target
scope:target = {
any_de_jure_county = {
percent >= 0.33
holder ?= {
target_is_same_character_or_above = scope:puppet_or_actor
}
}
}
add = 40
}
modifier = {
desc = request_unformed_title_mostly_controls_target_reason
exists = scope:target
scope:target = {
any_de_jure_county = {
percent >= 0.5
holder ?= {
target_is_same_character_or_above = scope:puppet_or_actor
}
}
}
add = 40
}
modifier = {
desc = request_unformed_title_controls_target_reason
exists = scope:target
scope:target = {
any_de_jure_county = {
count = all
holder ?= {
target_is_same_character_or_above = scope:puppet_or_actor
}
}
}
add = 70
}
modifier = {
desc = request_unformed_title_faithless_de_jure_reason
exists = scope:target
scope:target = {
NOT = {
any_de_jure_county = {
percent >= 0.75
faith = scope:puppet_or_actor.faith
}
}
}
add = -50
}
modifier = {
desc = LOW_LEGITIMACY_REASON
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
has_legitimacy = yes
legitimacy_level <= 1
}
add = -150
}
modifier = {
desc = LOW_LEGITIMACY_REASON
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
has_legitimacy = yes
legitimacy_level = 2
}
add = -25
}
modifier = {
desc = HIGH_LEGITIMACY_REASON
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
has_legitimacy = yes
legitimacy_level >= 4
}
add = {
value = scope:puppet_or_actor.legitimacy_level
subtract = 3
multiply = 50
}
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.
What happens
If they accept
- In some cases (on a condition the game doesn't show) › You › If request unformed title piety cost more than 0:
add_piety = { … }
If
- You: Is not an Independent Ruler
Then
- Your liege:
- Opinion: Circumvented My Authority (-25)
- Opinion: Circumvented My Authority
If
- The character you target: Is played by a person
Then
- You: Opinion: Grateful (+30)
- … is proclaimed and granted to …
If
- The option “donate faith” is chosen
Then
- Pay gold to the target
If
- The option “offer pilgrimage” is chosen
Then
- You:
- Gains the modifier “Promised Pilgrimage” for 10 years
- Monthly Piety -25%
- Character spiritual fulfillment loss +25%
- … will be blocked from most Interactions with Ecclesiastical Rulers and the Head of Faith until … visit a Holy Site on Pilgrimage or the Promised Pilgrimage Modifier expires
- Gains the modifier “Promised Pilgrimage” for 10 years
- The character you target:
add_piety_experience = { … }
- The target: Gains the … Title (bestowed title holder)
- The target:
If
- Your government is not a Theocratic-type Government
top_participant_group:the_christian_church:One of these
participant_group_type = christian_clerical_main_power_rulersor
participant_group_type = christian_regular_main_power_rulers
- The Christian Church: The current phase counts “A prelate single-handedly bestowes a Kingdom upon a secular Ruler”
scope:target.tier >= tier_kingdom
Then
If
scope:target.tier >= tier_empire
Then
- The Christian Church: Counts toward the situation's next phase: “A prelate single-handedly bestowes an Empire upon a secular Ruler”
Otherwise
- The Christian Church: Counts toward the situation's next phase: “A prelate single-handedly bestowes a Kingdom upon a secular Ruler”
Else if
- Your Government is a Theocratic-type Government
top_participant_group:the_christian_church:One of these
participant_group_type = christian_clerical_main_power_rulersor
participant_group_type = christian_regular_main_power_rulers
- The Christian Church: The current phase counts “A prelate bestowes a Kingdom to the Clergy”
Then
If
scope:target.tier >= tier_empire
Then
- The Christian Church: Counts toward the situation's next phase: “A prelate bestowes an Empire to the Clergy”
Else if
scope:target.tier >= tier_kingdom
Then
- The Christian Church: Counts toward the situation's next phase: “A prelate bestowes a Kingdom to the Clergy”
Otherwise
- The Christian Church: Counts toward the situation's next phase: “A prelate bestowes a Duchy to the Clergy”
If
- The bestowing cleric: Is played by a person
Then
- If clerical hesitation claim interaction at least 9 › The cleric:
If
a check the game hides
Then
change_spiritual_fulfillment = { … }
Otherwise
- Spiritual fulfillment -20
- You lose Spiritual Fulfillment because you consider … to be an immoral Ruler
- Else, if clerical hesitation claim interaction at least 6 › The cleric:
If
a check the game hides
Then
change_spiritual_fulfillment = { … }
Otherwise
- Spiritual fulfillment -10
- You lose Spiritual Fulfillment because you consider … to be an immoral Ruler
- Else, if clerical hesitation claim interaction at least 3 › The cleric:
If
a check the game hides
Then
change_spiritual_fulfillment = { … }
Otherwise
- Spiritual fulfillment -5
- You lose Spiritual Fulfillment because you consider … to be an immoral Ruler
- Else, if clerical hesitation claim interaction at least 1 › The cleric:
If
a check the game hides
Then
change_spiritual_fulfillment = { … }
Otherwise
- Spiritual fulfillment -3
- … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
If they refuse
If
- The character you target: Is played by a person
Then
- You: Opinion: Refusal (-50)
Options when sending
- Use a Hook
- Donate Gold to the Church
- Offer a Hook
- Vow to cleanse it from the heathens
- Offer Pilgrimage
Events it fires: pam_interactions_events.0098, pam_interactions_events.0097
• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists
Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (34 lines of game script)
is_available = has_pam_dlc_trigger = yes
is_shown = scope:puppet_or_actor ?= {
highest_held_title_tier >= tier_county
is_landed = yes
pam_clergy_interactions_faith_trigger = yes
NOT = {
government_has_flag = government_is_theocracy
}
highest_held_title_tier < tier_empire
is_ruler = yes
}
scope:puppet_or_actor != scope:recipient
scope:puppet_or_actor ?= {
NOT = {
is_at_war_with = scope:recipient
}
any_held_title = {
de_jure_liege ?= {
NOT = {
exists = holder
}
tier < tier_hegemony
is_landless_type_title = no
}
}
}
scope:recipient = {
pam_request_legitimacy_priest_trigger = {
CHARACTER = scope:puppet_or_actor
}
NOT = {
this = scope:actor
}
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.
Can be sent when (is_valid…) (71 lines of game script)
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
is_at_war = no
clergy_interaction_generic_piety_level_or_puppet_req_trigger = yes
is_available_quick = {
incapable = no
imprisoned = no
hostage = no
}
is_landed = yes
NOT = {
has_trait = excommunicated
}
primary_title = {
is_landless_type_title = no
}
custom_tooltip = {
text = request_unformed_title_not_clerics_vassal_tt
NOT = {
is_vassal_or_below_of = scope:recipient
}
}
custom_tooltip = {
text = request_unformed_title_liege_two_tiers_higher_tt
OR = {
is_independent_ruler = yes
highest_held_title_tier < liege.highest_held_title_tier_minus_one
}
}
NOT = {
has_character_modifier = promised_pilgrimage_to_clergy_modifier
}
custom_tooltip = {
text = valid_request_unformed_title_tt
any_held_title = {
de_jure_liege ?= {
target_valid_request_unformed_title_trigger = yes
}
}
}
}
scope:recipient = {
is_available_quick = {
incapable = no
imprisoned = no
hostage = no
ruler = yes
adult = yes
}
NOT = {
has_trait = excommunicated
}
piety_level >= 2
highest_held_title_tier >= tier_duchy
faith = scope:puppet_or_actor.faith
trigger_if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
scope:puppet_or_actor.religious_head_or_challenger ?= this
}
}
rite = scope:puppet_or_actor.rite
}
}
trigger_if = {
limit = {
scope:is_puppet_action ?= yes
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
piety >= pam_request_unformed_title_piety_cost_value
}
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.
Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (121 lines of game script)
on_accept = if = {
limit = {
scope:is_puppet_action ?= yes
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
if = {
limit = {
pam_request_unformed_title_piety_cost_value > 0
}
add_piety = {
value = {
add = pam_request_unformed_title_piety_cost_value
max = piety
multiply = -1
}
}
}
}
}
scope:recipient = {
save_scope_as = cleric
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
is_independent_ruler = no
liege = {
NOT = {
this = scope:recipient
}
}
}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor.liege = {
add_opinion = {
target = scope:recipient
modifier = circumvented_my_authority_opinion
opinion = -25
}
add_opinion = {
target = scope:puppet_or_actor
modifier = circumvented_my_authority_opinion
opinion = {
value = -15
if = {
limit = {
exists = scope:target
scope:target.tier = scope:puppet_or_actor.liege.highest_held_title_tier_minus_one
}
add = -15
}
}
}
}
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:recipient = {
is_ai = no
}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
add_opinion = {
target = scope:recipient
modifier = grateful_opinion
opinion = 30
}
}
}
else = {
hidden_effect = {
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
add_opinion = {
target = scope:recipient
modifier = grateful_opinion
opinion = 50
}
}
}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
show_as_tooltip = {
request_unformed_title_effect = yes
}
trigger_event = pam_interactions_events.0097
}
on_decline = if = {
limit = {
scope:recipient = {
is_ai = no
}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
add_opinion = {
target = scope:recipient
modifier = refusal_opinion
opinion = -50
}
}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
send_interface_toast = {
type = event_toast_effect_bad
title = request_unformed_title_refusal_toast_tt
left_icon = scope:recipient
}
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:is_puppet_action ?= yes
scope:actor != scope:recipient
}
scope:actor = {
send_interface_toast = {
type = event_toast_effect_bad
title = request_unformed_title_refusal_toast_tt_puppeteer
left_icon = scope:puppet_or_actor
right_icon = scope:recipient
}
}
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.
- Category
- Religious actions
- Cost: Piety
- from 500
- Again on the same character
- after 10 years
- DLC
- By God Alone
- In the menu
- under More…
- ID
request_unformed_title_interaction
Source: game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient.