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Interaction · Religious actions

Request Cardinalate

variesPietyBy God AloneAccepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it

Petition your Head of Faith to appoint you as a Cardinal. Your Head of Faith will become your Superior

What you need

You

To send it

  • In some cases (on a condition the game doesn't show) › You:
    • piety >= pam_request_clerical_elector_title_cost_value
  • Your Faith must have fewer than 70 Cardinals
  • Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated
  • Is not at war with the target
  • If

    • scope:recipient ?= scope:puppet_or_actor.faith.religious_head

    Then

    • You:
      • If

        • Their faith › Any religious head challenger:
          • holder ?= scope:pam_antipope_holder_check

        Then

  • Also needed: available (an adult, a ruler, not imprisoned, not incapable)

To see it in the menu

  • Is a member of the Clergy
  • Your faith: Has a Doctrine or Tenet with has clerical electors
  • If does not have “great schism decision taken” (a variable the game's script sets): Does not hold Constantinople
  • One of these

    • Your Government is a Theocratic-type Government
    • or

      Your Government is unplayable
    • or

      Is not a ruler
  • Your faith › No religious head challenger:
    • holder ?= scope:pam_antipope_holder_check
  • One of these

    • faith.religious_head ?= scope:recipient
    • or

      All of these

      • NOT = { exists = faith.religious_head }
      • Your faith is the same as that of recipient
      • The character you target:

Request Cardinalate is a religious character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: Your Faith must have fewer than 70 Cardinals, Is available (an adult, a ruler, not imprisoned, not incapable), Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated and 1 more. Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Reasons the AI weighs include Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler (+20), Petitioning the acting Head of Rite rather than a Head of Faith (+15), Heretically Divergent Rite (-50) and 18 more. It costs Piety (varies). It needs By God Alone. Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt.

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Quick answers (3)
What are the requirements for Request Cardinalate in CK3?
You: Your Faith must have fewer than 70 Cardinals, Is available (an adult, a ruler, not imprisoned, not incapable), Does not have the Trait: Excommunicated and Is not at war with the target. (patch 1.20.1.2)
How do I get the AI to accept Request Cardinalate?
Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Its reasons: Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler +20, Relative Level of Devotion, Petitioning the acting Head of Rite rather than a Head of Faith +15, Heretically Divergent Rite -50, Different Rite -25, Your Level of Devotion is … -25, Your Level of Devotion is greater than the recipient +25, Your Level of Fame is greater than the recipient +15, … Opinion of …, You … Virtuous Traits, You … Sinful Traits, The recipient … Cynical -30, Your Realm holds a Holy Site of the Faith +20, Head of Rite +25, You … family to the recipient +30, You … allied to the recipient +20, You … the recipient's best friend +10, The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenet -60, Weak Hook used +100, You … the recipient's rival -100, You … the recipient's nemesis -500, You … Celibate +15, You … Monk +15, You … the same Culture as the recipient +25 and Your Dynasty has Mitre and Crosier +40.
How much does Request Cardinalate cost?
Piety (varies) (patch 1.20.1.2).

Will they accept?

Accepted automatically when:

  • They use their Hook on …

Otherwise the AI adds these up and accepts above zero; near zero the answer is partly random (ai_maybe). Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.

ReasonAmount
Base-50
Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler
when
+20
Relative Level of Devotion
when
  • Your Personal Tenets unlock tenet celestial hierarchy interaction acceptance
  • Your faith is the same as that of recipient
varies
Petitioning the acting Head of Rite rather than a Head of Faith
when
  • root.faith.main_rite.head_of_rite ?= scope:recipient
+15
Heretically Divergent Rite
when
  • Your faith is the target’s
  • Your rite is not the target’s
  • The target’s rite:
    • divergence(scope:puppet_or_actor.rite) >= scope:recipient.faith.heresy_threshold
-50
Different Rite
when
  • Your rite is not the target’s
-25
Your Level of Devotion is …
when
  • root.piety_level = 0
-25
Your Level of Devotion is greater than the recipient
when
  • root.piety_level > scope:recipient.piety_level
+25
Your Level of Fame is greater than the recipient
when
  • root.prestige_level > scope:recipient.prestige_level
+15
… Opinion of …varies
You … Virtuous Traits
when
  • root.num_virtuous_traits > 0
varies
You … Sinful Traits
when
  • root.num_sinful_traits > 0
varies
The recipient … Cynical
when
-30
Your Realm holds a Holy Site of the Faith
when
  • The target’s faith › Any holy site barony › Their county’s holder:
    • One of these

      • Is you
      • or

        Is a vassal (or below) of you
+20
Head of Rite
when
  • root.rite.head_of_rite ?= scope:puppet_or_actor
+25
You … family to the recipient+30
You … allied to the recipient
when
  • Is allied to the target
+20
You … the recipient's best friend
when
  • Has the target as best friend
+10
The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenet
when
  • Any secret: Is known by the target
-60
Weak Hook used
when
+100
You … the recipient's rival
when
  • The character you target: Has you as rival
-100
You … the recipient's nemesis
when
  • The character you target: Has you as nemesis
-500
You … Celibate
when
+15
You … Monk
when
+15
You … the same Culture as the recipient
when
  • The target’s culture is your
+25
Your Dynasty has Mitre and Crosier
when
+40
Acceptance (ai_accept) (58 lines of game script)
base = -50
celestial_hierarchy_acceptance_modifier = {
	ACTOR = scope:puppet_or_actor
	RECIPIENT = scope:recipient
}
clerical_petition_to_authority_acceptance_modifier = yes
modifier = {
	scope:hook = yes
	add = 100
	scope:actor = {
		NOT = {
			has_strong_hook = scope:recipient
		}
	}
	desc = SCHEME_WEAK_HOOK_USED
}
modifier = {
	add = -100
	desc = WE_ARE_RIVALS
	scope:recipient = {
		has_relation_rival = scope:puppet_or_actor
	}
}
modifier = {
	add = -500
	desc = WE_ARE_NEMESES
	scope:recipient = {
		has_relation_nemesis = scope:puppet_or_actor
	}
}
modifier = {
	add = 15
	scope:puppet_or_actor = {
		has_trait = celibate
	}
	desc = I_AM_CELIBATE
}
modifier = {
	add = 15
	scope:puppet_or_actor = {
		has_trait = devoted
	}
	desc = I_AM_DEVOTED
}
modifier = {
	add = 25
	scope:recipient.culture = scope:puppet_or_actor.culture
	desc = SAME_CULTURE_AS_RECIPIENT_REASON
}
modifier = {
	add = 40
	scope:puppet_or_actor ?= {
		dynasty ?= {
			has_dynasty_perk = pam_legacy_4
		}
	}
	desc = DYNASTY_LEGACY_PAM_LEGACY_4_ACCEPTANCE_PERK_MODIFIER
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt.

What happens

If they accept

  • In some cases (on a condition the game doesn't show) › You › If request clerical elector title cost more than 0:
    • add_piety = { … }
  • … accepted … request for a Cardinalate
  • If

    • You: Is played by a person
    • You are not you

    Then

If they refuse

  • If

    • You: Is played by the AI

    Then

    • You: Opinion: Annoyed (-10)

Options when sending

  • Use a Hook

Events it fires: pam_clergy_events.0043

• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists

Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (22 lines of game script)
is_available = has_pam_dlc_trigger = yes
is_shown = scope:puppet_or_actor ?= {
	this != scope:recipient
	is_clergy = yes
	pam_can_hold_cardinalate_trigger = yes
	pam_can_receive_cardinalate_trigger = yes
	NOT = {
		exists = clerical_elector_title
	}
	OR = {
		faith.religious_head ?= scope:recipient
		AND = {
			NOT = {
				exists = faith.religious_head
			}
			faith = scope:recipient.faith
			scope:recipient = {
				pam_leads_college_of_cardinals_trigger = yes
			}
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt.

Can be sent when (is_valid…) (34 lines of game script)
trigger_if = {
	limit = {
		scope:is_puppet_action ?= yes
	}
	scope:puppet_or_actor = {
		piety >= pam_request_clerical_elector_title_cost_value
	}
}
custom_tooltip = {
	text = appoint_cardinal_interaction_max_cardinals_tt
	scope:puppet_or_actor.faith ?= {
		NOT = {
			any_clerical_elector_title = {
				count >= 70
			}
		}
	}
}
scope:puppet_or_actor = {
	is_available_quick = {
		adult = yes
		ruler = yes
		imprisoned = no
		incapable = no
		hostage = no
	}
	NOR = {
		has_trait = excommunicated
		is_at_war_with = scope:recipient
	}
	pam_not_antipope_when_recipient_is_hof_tt = {
		CHARACTER = scope:puppet_or_actor
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt.

Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (70 lines of game script)
on_accept = if = {
	limit = {
		scope:is_puppet_action ?= yes
	}
	scope:puppet_or_actor = {
		if = {
			limit = {
				pam_request_clerical_elector_title_cost_value > 0
			}
			add_piety = {
				value = {
					add = pam_request_clerical_elector_title_cost_value
					max = piety
					multiply = -1
				}
			}
		}
	}
}
scope:actor = {
	send_interface_toast = {
		type = event_toast_effect_good
		title = request_clerical_elector_title_interaction_toast
		left_icon = scope:recipient
		right_icon = scope:puppet_or_actor
		custom_tooltip = {
			text = request_clerical_elector_title_interaction_accept_tt
			scope:puppet_or_actor = {
				grant_cardinal_title_effect = {
					CARDINAL_COUNTY = capital_county
				}
			}
		}
	}
}
if = {
	limit = {
		scope:puppet_or_actor = {
			is_ai = no
		}
		scope:actor != scope:puppet_or_actor
	}
	scope:recipient = {
		save_scope_as = head_of_faith
	}
	scope:puppet_or_actor = {
		pam_notify_player_became_cardinal_effect = yes
	}
}
on_decline = scope:actor = {
	send_interface_toast = {
		type = event_toast_effect_bad
		title = request_clerical_elector_title_interaction_decline_toast
		right_icon = scope:recipient
		if = {
			limit = {
				scope:puppet_or_actor = {
					is_ai = yes
				}
			}
			scope:puppet_or_actor = {
				add_opinion = {
					target = scope:recipient
					modifier = annoyed_opinion
					opinion = -10
				}
			}
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt.

Category
Religious actions
Cost: Piety
varies
Again on the same character
after 10 years
DLC
By God Alone
In the menu
main list
ID
request_clerical_elector_title_interaction

Source: game/common/character_interactions/01_puppet_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient.

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