Interaction · Diplomatic actions
Puppet Secular Ruler
Establish control over the recipient: as your Secular Ruler Puppet, they will be forced to do your bidding via Interactions
What you need
You
To send it
- Is not at war with the target
NOT = { puppet:external_ruler_puppet ?= scope:recipient }- You already have a Secular Ruler Puppet
- … … a Challenger Head of Faith
- At least one of these: You are a Clerical Vassal of … · You are a Seducer and … is your Lover, or your Soulmate if … is of King rank or higher · You are a Torturer and hold … in your Dungeon · You are Family Hierarch and … is in your House · You are a Diplomat and … is your Ally · You are a Schemer and have a Hook on …, or a Strong Hook if … is of King rank or higher · You are a Gallant and … is your Spouse · You are a Diarch of … in an Entrenched Regency · You are … Head of Faith, Challenger Head of Faith, or Head of Rite
- You:
If
Then
- … must either: Have a Strong Hook on … · Make … Terrified · Be … Head of Faith or Challenger Head of Faith
Else if
Then
- … must either: Have a Level of Devotion of Paragon of Virtue or higher · Have a Strong Hook on … · Make … Terrified · Be … Head of Faith or Challenger Head of Faith
Otherwise
- … must either: Have a Level of Devotion of Devoted Servant or higher · Have a Hook on … · Make … Terrified · Be … Head of Faith or Challenger Head of Faith
Puppet Secular Ruler is a diplomatic character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: Is not at war with the target, You already have a Secular Ruler Puppet and At least one of these: • You are a Clerical Vassal of … • You are a Seducer and … is your Lover, or your Soulmate if … is of King rank or higher • You are a Torturer and hold … in your Dungeon • You are Family Hierarch and … is in your House • You are a Diplomat and … is your Ally • You are a Schemer and have a Hook on …, or a Strong Hook if … is of King rank or higher • You are a Gallant and … is your Spouse • You are a Diarch of … in an Entrenched Regency • You are … Head of Faith, Challenger Head of Faith, or Head of Rite. The character you target needs: Is at least 6 years old and Is played by the AI. The AI weighs it. Reasons the AI weighs include Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler (+20), Clerical authority over a secular Ruler (+50), Head of Faith (-30) and 65 more. It costs Prestige (from 75). It needs By God Alone. Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt.
Quick answers (3)
- What are the requirements for Puppet Secular Ruler in CK3?
- You: Is not at war with the target, You already have a Secular Ruler Puppet and At least one of these: • You are a Clerical Vassal of … • You are a Seducer and … is your Lover, or your Soulmate if … is of King rank or higher • You are a Torturer and hold … in your Dungeon • You are Family Hierarch and … is in your House • You are a Diplomat and … is your Ally • You are a Schemer and have a Hook on …, or a Strong Hook if … is of King rank or higher • You are a Gallant and … is your Spouse • You are a Diarch of … in an Entrenched Regency • You are … Head of Faith, Challenger Head of Faith, or Head of Rite. The character you target: Is at least 6 years old and Is played by the AI. (patch 1.20.1.2)
- How do I get the AI to accept Puppet Secular Ruler?
- The AI weighs it. Its reasons: Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler +20, Relative Level of Devotion, Clerical authority over a secular Ruler +50, Difference in Rank, Head of Faith -30, Different Faith, The recipient's military is weaker +15, The recipient's military is far weaker +30, The recipient's military is stronger -15, The recipient's military is far stronger -30, The recipient is Zealous +50, … Opinion of …, You … of their House +30, The recipient is your Close Family +50, Same Dynasty +15, You are their House Head +50, You are their Dynasty Head +25, You … one or more exceptionally pious Traits +100, You … one or more pious Traits +20, You … Virtuous Traits, Your Level of Devotion, Allied +40, They has positive Special Relations with you +30, You … the recipient's best friend +30, Intimidated by you +25, Terrified of you +50, You have immoral Traits or a low Level of Devotion, You have wicked Traits, Is your Rival -200, They is your Nemesis -400, Your Tyranny, Your zealousness, Limited Church Authority +20, High Church Authority +30, Absolute Church Authority +50, Head of Faith +30, Head of Rite +20, You belong to different Rites -30, The recipient's compatibility with … +20, The recipient's compatibility with … -25, The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenet -100, The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenet -40, The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenet -60, Was formerly your puppet … +100, You have the Uncrowned Law -30, Your high Intrigue, Your high Diplomacy, Your high Learning, The recipient's superior Intrigue, The recipient's superior Diplomacy, The recipient's superior Learning, The recipient's landed Titles, The recipient … of the the recipient Tier -20, The recipient … of the the recipient Tier -30, Head of Rite -20, The recipient's Boldness, Paranoid -50, Stubborn -50, The recipient's sizeable Realm -20, The recipient's immense Realm -40, You are both dishonorable, You are both honorable, You are both kind, You are both cold-hearted, You are both avaricious, You are both selfless, You are both rational, Distrusts your dishonorable Personality, Distrusts your honorable Personality, Distrusts your cruel Personality, Distrusts your soft-hearted Personality, Distrusts your avaricious Personality, Distrusts your altruistic Personality, Distrusts your irrational Personality, The recipient's apathetic Personality, You are both … +10, The recipient's Culture is unrelated to yours -20, The recipient is Trusting +50, The recipient's mind is addled +30, The recipient is too unwell to resist you +40, The recipient is an idiot +75, The recipient's immaturity +35, The recipient is a child +75, The recipient is Loyal +100, Your manipulative Traits +20, You are imprisoning the recipient +100, The recipient is a Conqueror -100, The recipient is the Greatest of Khans -250, Puppeting secular Ruler during … +60, Puppeting secular Ruler during … +30, Puppeting secular Ruler during … -30, Puppeting secular Ruler during … -60, Puppeting Clerical Ruler during … +60, Puppeting Clerical Ruler during … +30, Puppeting Clerical Ruler during … -30, Distance between your Realm Capitals -20, Distance between your Realm Capitals -50, Distance between your Realm Capitals -100, Resents domination by a … -25, Weak Hook used +50, You already have a Strong Hook on the recipient +150, Guide Puppet with your high Skills, Control your Puppet with terrible threats and dark promises, Promise your Puppet salvation, Use your Puppet's trust in you and Cloud and poison your Puppet's feeble mind.
- How much does Puppet Secular Ruler cost?
- Prestige (from 75) (patch 1.20.1.2).
Will they accept?
The AI adds these up and accepts above zero. Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.
| Reason | Amount |
|---|---|
| Base | -50 |
| Clergy acting towards a secular Ruler | +20 |
Relative Level of Devotionwhen
| varies |
| Clerical authority over a secular Ruler | +50 |
Difference in Rankwhen
| varies |
Head of Faithwhen
| -30 |
Different Faithwhen
| varies |
The recipient's military is weakerwhen
| +15 |
The recipient's military is far weakerwhen
| +30 |
The recipient's military is strongerwhen
| -15 |
The recipient's military is far strongerwhen
| -30 |
| The recipient is Zealous | +50 |
| … Opinion of … | varies |
You … of their Housewhen
| +30 |
The recipient is your Close Familywhen
| +50 |
Same Dynastywhen
| +15 |
You are their House Headwhen
| +50 |
You are their Dynasty Headwhen
| +25 |
You … one or more exceptionally pious Traitswhen
| +100 |
You … one or more pious Traitswhen
| +20 |
You … Virtuous Traitswhen
| varies |
Your Level of Devotionwhen
| varies |
Alliedwhen
| +40 |
They has positive Special Relations with youwhen
| +30 |
You … the recipient's best friendwhen
| +30 |
Intimidated by youwhen
| +25 |
Terrified of youwhen
| +50 |
| You have immoral Traits or a low Level of Devotion | varies |
| You have wicked Traits | varies |
Is your Rivalwhen
| -200 |
They is your Nemesiswhen
| -400 |
Your Tyrannywhen
| your tyranny × -2 |
Your zealousnesswhen
| varies |
Limited Church Authoritywhen
| +20 |
High Church Authoritywhen
| +30 |
Absolute Church Authoritywhen
| +50 |
| Head of Faith | +30 |
Head of Ritewhen
| +20 |
You belong to different Riteswhen
| -30 |
The recipient's compatibility with …when
| +20 |
The recipient's compatibility with …when
| -25 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenetwhen
| -100 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenetwhen
| -40 |
The recipient's Rite prohibits your exposed personal Tenetwhen
| -60 |
Was formerly your puppet …when
| +100 |
| You have the Uncrowned Law | -30 |
Your high Intriguewhen
| your intrigue × 1.5 |
Your high Diplomacywhen
| your diplomacy |
Your high Learningwhen
| varies |
The recipient's superior Intriguewhen
| varies |
The recipient's superior Diplomacywhen
| varies |
The recipient's superior Learningwhen
| varies |
| The recipient's landed Titles | varies |
| The recipient … of the the recipient Tier | -20 |
| The recipient … of the the recipient Tier | -30 |
Head of Ritewhen
| -20 |
The recipient's Boldnesswhen
| varies |
| Paranoid | -50 |
| Stubborn | -50 |
The recipient's sizeable Realmwhen
| -20 |
The recipient's immense Realmwhen
| -40 |
You are both dishonorablewhen
| your ai honor × -0.25 |
You are both honorablewhen
| your ai honor × 0.25 |
You are both kindwhen
| your ai compassion × 0.25 |
You are both cold-heartedwhen
| your ai compassion × -0.25 |
You are both avariciouswhen
| your ai greed × 0.25 |
You are both selflesswhen
| your ai greed × -0.25 |
You are both rationalwhen
| your ai rationality × 0.25 |
Distrusts your dishonorable Personalitywhen
| your ai honor × 0.25 |
Distrusts your honorable Personalitywhen
| your ai honor × -0.25 |
Distrusts your cruel Personalitywhen
| your ai compassion × 0.25 |
Distrusts your soft-hearted Personalitywhen
| your ai compassion × -0.25 |
Distrusts your avaricious Personalitywhen
| your ai greed × -0.25 |
Distrusts your altruistic Personalitywhen
| your ai greed × 0.25 |
Distrusts your irrational Personalitywhen
| your ai rationality × 0.25 |
The recipient's apathetic Personalitywhen
| their ai energy × -0.25 |
You are both …when
| +10 |
The recipient's Culture is unrelated to yourswhen
| -20 |
| The recipient is Trusting | +50 |
The recipient's mind is addledwhen
| +30 |
| The recipient is too unwell to resist you | +40 |
The recipient is an idiotwhen
| +75 |
The recipient's immaturitywhen
| +35 |
The recipient is a childwhen
| +75 |
| The recipient is Loyal | +100 |
| Your manipulative Traits | +20 |
You are imprisoning the recipientwhen
| +100 |
A scripted reasonwhen
| +25 |
| The recipient is a Conqueror | -100 |
The recipient is the Greatest of Khanswhen
| -250 |
Puppeting secular Ruler during …when
| +60 |
Puppeting secular Ruler during …when
| +30 |
Puppeting secular Ruler during …when
| -30 |
Puppeting secular Ruler during …when
| -60 |
Puppeting Clerical Ruler during …when
| +60 |
Puppeting Clerical Ruler during …when
| +30 |
Puppeting Clerical Ruler during …when
| -30 |
Distance between your Realm Capitalswhen
| -20 |
Distance between your Realm Capitalswhen
| -50 |
Distance between your Realm Capitalswhen
| -100 |
Resents domination by a …when
| -25 |
Weak Hook usedwhen
| +50 |
You already have a Strong Hook on the recipientwhen
| +150 |
Guide Puppet with your high Skillswhen
| varies |
Control your Puppet with terrible threats and dark promiseswhen
| varies |
Promise your Puppet salvationwhen
| varies |
Use your Puppet's trust in youwhen
| varies |
Cloud and poison your Puppet's feeble mindwhen
| varies |
Acceptance (ai_accept) (127 lines of game script)
base = -50
celestial_hierarchy_acceptance_modifier = {
ACTOR = scope:actor
RECIPIENT = scope:recipient
}
celestial_hierarchy_external_ruler_puppet_acceptance_modifier = {
ACTOR = scope:actor
RECIPIENT = scope:recipient
}
modifier = {
scope:actor = {
tier_difference = {
target = scope:recipient
value <= -1
}
}
add = {
value = -60
if = {
limit = {
scope:actor = {
tier_difference = {
target = scope:recipient
value = -2
}
}
}
add = -60
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:actor = {
tier_difference = {
target = scope:recipient
value = -3
}
}
}
add = -120
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:actor = {
tier_difference = {
target = scope:recipient
value <= -4
}
}
}
add = -180
}
}
desc = RANK_DIFFERENCE_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = -30
scope:recipient.faith.religious_head = scope:recipient
desc = HEAD_OF_FAITH_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = {
value = -50
if = {
limit = {
scope:recipient.faith = {
faith_hostility_level = {
target = scope:actor.faith
value >= faith_hostile_level
}
}
}
add = -50
}
if = {
limit = {
scope:recipient.faith = {
faith_hostility_level = {
target = scope:actor.faith
value >= faith_evil_level
}
}
}
add = -50
}
}
scope:recipient = {
NOT = {
faith = scope:actor.faith
}
}
desc = PUPPET_DIFFERENT_FAITH_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = 15
scope:recipient = {
is_landed = yes
}
scope:recipient.current_military_strength < scope:actor.current_military_strength
desc = PUPPET_RECIPIENT_WEAKER_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = 30
scope:recipient = {
is_landed = yes
}
scope:recipient.current_military_strength < scope:actor.half_current_military_strength
desc = PUPPET_RECIPIENT_MUCH_WEAKER_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = -15
scope:actor.current_military_strength < scope:recipient.current_military_strength
desc = PUPPET_ACTOR_WEAKER_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = -30
scope:actor.current_military_strength < scope:recipient.half_current_military_strength
desc = PUPPET_ACTOR_MUCH_WEAKER_REASON
}
modifier = {
add = 50
scope:actor = {
is_clergy = yes
}
has_trait = zealous
desc = ASK_FOR_CONVERSION_RECIPIENT_IS_ZEALOUS
}
theocratic_related_puppet_acceptance_factors_modifier = yesAs written in game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt.
What happens
If they accept
- Event pam_interactions_events.0121
If
- The option “skill support” is chosen
Then
- The character you target:
If
- You:
highest_skill = diplomacy
Then
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Political Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +4
- Martial +1
- Stewardship +1
- Intrigue +1
- Learning +1
Else if
- You:
highest_skill = martial
Then
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Strategic Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +1
- Martial +4
- Stewardship +1
- Intrigue +1
- Learning +1
Else if
- You:
highest_skill = stewardship
Then
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Shrewd Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +1
- Martial +1
- Stewardship +4
- Intrigue +1
- Learning +1
Else if
- You:
highest_skill = intrigue
Then
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Cunning Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +1
- Martial +1
- Stewardship +1
- Intrigue +4
- Learning +1
Else if
- You:
highest_skill = learning
Then
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Erudite Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +1
- Martial +1
- Stewardship +1
- Intrigue +1
- Learning +4
Otherwise
- Gains the modifier “Advised by Skillful Puppetmaster”
- Diplomacy +2
- Martial +2
- Stewardship +2
- Intrigue +2
- Learning +2
- You:
- … will Behave somewhat more rationally and acquisitively
If
- The option “piety support” is chosen
Then
- The character you target:
If
- Is a ruler
One of these
- Cannot play landless rulers without having an Estate
or
or
All of these
- Their liege:
tgp_has_access_to_ministry_trigger = { }
tgp_has_minister_title = { }
- Their liege:
or
Has “laamp transition” (a variable the game's script sets)
Then
- Spiritual fulfillment +5
- If a member of the Clergy:
- Gains the modifier “Puppeted Toward Salvation”
- Personal Tenets +1
- Character starting spiritual fulfillment +10
- Character spiritual fulfillment gain +25%
- Gains the modifier “Puppeted Toward Salvation”
- Otherwise:
- Gains the modifier “Puppeted Toward Salvation”
- Prowess per Level of Devotion +1
- Character starting spiritual fulfillment +10
- Character spiritual fulfillment gain +25%
- Stress Loss per Level of Devotion +10%
- Gains the modifier “Puppeted Toward Salvation”
- … will Behave more zealously and boldly
If
- The option “dread support” is chosen
Then
- The character you target:
- Gains the modifier “Enthralled by Wicked Master”
- Character starting spiritual fulfillment -10
- Character spiritual fulfillment loss +25%
- Character spiritual fulfillment gain -25%
- Dread +0.25/month
- Natural Dread +10
- Tyranny Gain +33%
- … will Behave more ruthlessly, dishonorably, and cynically
If
- The option “friendly support” is chosen
Then
- The character you target:
If
- You: … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
Options when sending
- Use a Hook
- Guide Puppet with your high Skills
- Promise your Puppet salvation
- Control your Puppet with terrible threats and dark promises
- Use your Puppet's trust in you
- Cloud and poison your Puppet's feeble mind
Events it fires: pam_interactions_events.0121
• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists
Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (23 lines of game script)
is_available = is_ai = no
trigger_if = {
limit = {
is_ai = yes
}
NOT = {
exists = puppet:external_ruler_puppet
}
}
NOT = {
has_trait = incapable
}
is_adult = yes
has_pam_dlc_trigger = yes
is_shown = scope:actor != scope:recipient
scope:recipient = {
is_landed = yes
is_ruler = yes
NOR = {
has_trait = incapable
is_clergy = yes
}
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt.
Can be sent when (is_valid…) (30 lines of game script)
scope:recipient = {
age >= 6
is_ai = yes
custom_tooltip = {
text = pam_recipient_already_puppet_tt
NOT = {
exists = puppeteer
}
}
}
scope:actor = {
NOR = {
is_at_war_with = scope:recipient
puppet:external_ruler_puppet ?= scope:recipient
}
custom_tooltip = {
text = pam_already_have_external_ruler_puppet_tt
NOT = {
exists = puppet:external_ruler_puppet
}
}
custom_tooltip = {
text = actor_is_antipope_sponsor_tt
pam_sponsors_other_antipope_trigger = no
}
}
can_send_make_external_ruler_puppet_trigger = {
ACTOR = scope:actor
RECIPIENT = scope:recipient
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt.
Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (7 lines of game script)
on_accept = scope:actor = {
trigger_event = pam_interactions_events.0121
pam_generic_set_puppet_interaction_side_effects = yes
}
scope:recipient = {
custom_tooltip = set_external_ruler_puppet_tt
}As written in game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt.
- Category
- Diplomatic actions
- Cost: Prestige
- from 75
- Again on the same character
- after 10 years
- DLC
- By God Alone
- In the menu
- main list
- ID
make_external_ruler_puppet_interaction
Source: game/common/character_interactions/00_puppet_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient.