How do I get the AI to accept Seek Anti…'s Indulgences?

Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Its reasons: The recipient's greediness, The recipient's willingness to forgive, Sacrament of Confession is core in … +50, Sacrament of Confession is forbidden in … -100, Vows of Poverty is forbidden in … +20, Vows of Poverty is permitted in … -25, Communal Possessions is forbidden in … +20, Communal Possessions is permitted in … -25, You speak the … Language +5, …: + +20, Wants to increase House Unity, Wants to decrease House Unity, Is your Realm Priest Puppet +100, You have no Realm Priest Puppet -25, You belong to different Rites -20, The recipient's compatibility with … +25, The recipient's compatibility with … -25, The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenet -100, The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenet -40 and Offer Pilgrimage.

Interaction · Religious actions

Seek Anti…'s Indulgences

No costBy God AloneAccepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it

Pay Gold to your Challenger Head of Faith for forgiveness and Piety, bypassing the Mainline Rite Head of Faith

What you need

You

To send it

Is not at war with the target
Does not have the Modifier: Promised Pilgrimage
If
- Has the Trait: Kinslayer
- One of these
  One of these
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_3
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_2
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_1
  Your rite: The rite has Kinslayers are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:witch
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Witch Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:sodomite
  Your rite: The rite has Men with the Sodomite Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:deviant
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Deviant Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:incestuous
  None of these
  Your rite: The rite has Unrestricted Marriage
  or
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:adulterer
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:fornicator
  One of these
  All of these
  Your rite: The rite has Women with the Adulterer or Fornicator Trait are Shunned
  You:
  is_female = yes
  or
  All of these
  Your rite: The rite has Men with the Adulterer or Fornicator Trait are Shunned
  You:
  is_male = yes
  or
  One of these
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_3
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_2
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_1
  Your rite: The rite has Kinslayers with the Dynastic Kinslayer Trait or worse are Criminals in the eyes of their Dynasty
  or
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_3
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_2
  Your rite: The rite has Kinslayers with the Familial Kinslayer Trait or worse are Criminals in the eyes of their Dynasty
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:kinslayer_3
  Your rite: The rite has Kinslayers with the Kinslayer Trait are Criminals in the eyes of their Dynasty
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:witch
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Witch Trait are Criminals
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:cannibal
  None of these
  Your rite: The rite has The Cannibal trait is no longer considered Criminal
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:sodomite
  Your rite: The rite has Men with the Sodomite Trait are Criminals
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:deviant
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Deviant Trait are Criminals
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:incestuous
  None of these
  Your rite: The rite has Unrestricted Marriage
  or
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:adulterer
  or
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:fornicator
  One of these
  All of these
  Your rite: The rite has Women with the Adulterer or Fornicator Trait are Criminals
  You:
  is_female = yes
  or
  All of these
  Your rite: The rite has Men with the Adulterer or Fornicator Trait are Criminals
  You:
  is_male = yes
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_3 = trait:devoted
  Your rite: The rite has The Monk trait is Criminal
Then
- gold >= seek_indulgences_major_criminal_trait_value
Else if
- One of these
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Familial Kinslayer
  One of these
  One of these
  All of these
  One of these
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:kinslayer_3
  or
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:kinslayer_2
  or
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:kinslayer_1
  Your rite: The rite has Kinslayers are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:witch
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Witch Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:sodomite
  Your rite: The rite has Men with the Sodomite Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:deviant
  Your rite: The rite has Characters with the Deviant Trait are Shunned
  or
  All of these
  trait:kinslayer_2 = trait:incestuous
  None of these
  Your rite: The rite has Unrestricted Marriage
  or
  All of these
  One of these
  … (more in the script below)
  … (more in the script below)
  or
  … (more in the script below)
  or
  … (more in the script below)
… (more in the script below)

To see it in the menu

Your faith:
- One of these
  - Has the Central Doctrine
  - or
    main_rite = { rite_has_doctrine = doctrine_sacraments_central }
- One of these
  - Has a Doctrine or Tenet with Has Clerical Region
  - or
    Has the Spiritual Doctrine
  - or
    Has the Temporal Doctrine
Your rite: The rite does not have The Seek Indulgences Interaction is forbidden
is_following_religious_head_challenger = yes
root.religious_head_or_challenger ?= scope:recipient

The character you target

Their faith › Any religious head challenger:
- holder ?= scope:pam_antipope_holder_check

Seek Anti…'s Indulgences is a religious character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: Is not at war with the target and Does not have the Modifier: Promised Pilgrimage. Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Reasons the AI weighs include Sacrament of Confession is core in … (+50), Sacrament of Confession is forbidden in … (-100), Vows of Poverty is forbidden in … (+20) and 12 more. It needs By God Alone. Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.

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Quick answers (2)

What are the requirements for Seek Anti…'s Indulgences in CK3?: You: Is not at war with the target and Does not have the Modifier: Promised Pilgrimage. (patch 1.20.1.2)
How do I get the AI to accept Seek Anti…'s Indulgences?: Accepted automatically in some cases; otherwise the AI weighs it. Its reasons: The recipient's greediness, The recipient's willingness to forgive, Sacrament of Confession is core in … +50, Sacrament of Confession is forbidden in … -100, Vows of Poverty is forbidden in … +20, Vows of Poverty is permitted in … -25, Communal Possessions is forbidden in … +20, Communal Possessions is permitted in … -25, You speak the … Language +5, …: + +20, Wants to increase House Unity, Wants to decrease House Unity, Is your Realm Priest Puppet +100, You have no Realm Priest Puppet -25, You belong to different Rites -20, The recipient's compatibility with … +25, The recipient's compatibility with … -25, The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenet -100, The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenet -40 and Offer Pilgrimage.

Will they accept?

Accepted automatically when:

You declared them a Challenger Head of Faith

Otherwise the AI adds these up and accepts above zero. Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.

Reason	Amount
Base	+75
Their opinion of you	varies
The recipient's greediness when The character you target: One of these Ai greed more than 0 or Ai greed less than 0	their ai greed × 0.5
The recipient's willingness to forgive when The character you target: One of these Ai vengefulness more than 0 or Ai vengefulness less than 0	their ai vengefulness × -0.5
Sacrament of Confession is core in … when The target’s rite: The rite has Clergy who also practice Confession are more likely to accept the Seek Indulgences Interaction	+50
Sacrament of Confession is forbidden in … when The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = tenet_confession status = prohibited }`	-100
Vows of Poverty is forbidden in … when The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = tenet_vows_of_poverty status = prohibited }`	+20
Vows of Poverty is permitted in … when The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = tenet_vows_of_poverty status = permitted }`	-25
Communal Possessions is forbidden in … when The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = tenet_communal_possessions status = prohibited }`	+20
Communal Possessions is permitted in … when The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = tenet_communal_possessions status = permitted }`	-25
You speak the … Language when `knows_language_of_culture = scope:recipient.culture`	+5
…: + when `top_participant_group:the_christian_church:` `has_participant_group_parameter = the_christian_church_more_likely_to_accept_seek_indulgences`	+20
Wants to increase House Unity when Your Government is Clan Is of the same house as the target	varies
Wants to decrease House Unity when Your Government is Clan Is of the same house as the target	varies
Is your Realm Priest Puppet when `root.puppet:theological_agent_puppet ?= scope:recipient`	+100
You have no Realm Priest Puppet when None of these You: Your Government is a Theocratic-type Government `exists = scope:actor.puppet:theological_agent_puppet`	-25
You belong to different Rites when Is not of the same rite as the target	-20
The recipient's compatibility with … when Is not of the same rite as the target The character you target: `rite_fulfillment_score = { target = scope:actor.rite value >= 75 }`	+25
The recipient's compatibility with … when Is not of the same rite as the target The character you target: `rite_fulfillment_score = { target = scope:actor.rite value < 25 }`	-25
The recipient's Rite prohibits a … Tenet when Is not of the same rite as the target Any tenet: Your rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = prev status = core }` The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = prev status = prohibited }`	-100
The recipient's Rite prohibits a permitted … Tenet when Is not of the same rite as the target Any tenet: Your rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = prev status = permitted }` The target’s rite: `has_tenet_status = { tenet = prev status = prohibited }`	-40
Offer Pilgrimage when The option “offer pilgrimage” is chosen	pam_offer_pilgrimage_acceptance_value

Acceptance (ai_accept) (7 lines of game script)

base = 75
seek_indulgences_acceptance_modifier = yes
modifier = {
	add = pam_offer_pilgrimage_acceptance_value
	scope:offer_pilgrimage = yes
	desc = OFFER_PILGRIMAGE_INTERACTION_OPTION_REASON
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.

What happens

If they accept

You:
- If
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_kinslayer_3
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Kinslayer
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_3 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_3 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_major_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = kinslayer_3
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_kinslayer_2
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Familial Kinslayer
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_2 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_2 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_medium_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = kinslayer_2
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_witch
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Witch
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:witch RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:witch RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_medium_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = witch
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_deviant
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Deviant
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:deviant RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:deviant RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_medium_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = deviant
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_sodomite
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Sodomite
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:sodomite RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:sodomite RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_medium_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = sodomite
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_kinslayer_1
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Dynastic Kinslayer
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_1 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_1 RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_minor_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = kinslayer_1
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_adulterer
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Adulterer
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:adulterer RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:adulterer RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_minor_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = adulterer
  Else if
  One of these
  has_character_flag = seek_indulgences_removed_fornicator
  or
  All of these
  Has the Trait: Fornicator
  One of these
  trait_is_shunned_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:fornicator RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  or
  trait_is_criminal_in_rite_trigger = { TRAIT = trait:fornicator RITE = rite GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_minor_criminal_trait_value }
  remove_trait_force_tooltip = fornicator
- Else, if has the Trait: Gallowsbait:
  - pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_minor_criminal_trait_value }
  - If gallowsbait (bandit) experience at least 5: Gallowsbait (bandit) experience -40
  - Else, if gallowsbait (trickster) experience at least 5: Gallowsbait (trickster) experience -40
  - Else, if gallowsbait (thief) experience at least 5: Gallowsbait (thief) experience -40
  - Else, if gallowsbait (poacher) experience at least 5: Gallowsbait (poacher) experience -40
  - Else, if gallowsbait (marauder) experience at least 5: Gallowsbait (marauder) experience -40
  - Otherwise: Loses the Trait Gallowsbait
- If
  The character you target › Their faith › Any religious head challenger:
  holder ?= scope:pam_checked_antipope
  challenger_sponsor ?= { holder ?= scope:pam_expected_sponsor }
  Then
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_antipope_buy_piety_value }
  add_piety = { … }
  Otherwise
  pay_treasury_or_gold = { target = scope:recipient value = seek_indulgences_buy_piety_value }
  add_piety = { … }
- Spiritual fulfillment +10
- If
  The character you target: Is played by the AI
  Then
  The target gains the opinion “Pleased” (+25) of them
- Stress and fulfillment impact: by trait: Greedy +20, Cynical +20
You:
- If
  The character you target: Is played by the AI
  Then
  If
  … (more in the script below)
  … (more in the script below)
- … (more in the script below)
… (more in the script below)

Options when sending

Offer Pilgrimage

• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists

Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (19 lines of game script)

is_available = faith = {
	faith_has_sacraments_central_trigger = yes
	OR = {
		has_doctrine_parameter = has_clerical_regions
		has_doctrine = doctrine_spiritual_head
		has_doctrine = doctrine_temporal_head
	}
}
rite = {
	NOT = {
		rite_has_parameter = no_seek_indulgences
	}
}
is_shown = scope:actor = {
	is_following_religious_head_challenger = yes
}
has_pam_dlc_trigger = yes
scope:actor != scope:recipient
scope:actor.religious_head_or_challenger ?= scope:recipient

As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.

Can be sent when (is_valid…) (96 lines of game script)

scope:actor = {
	NOT = {
		is_at_war_with = scope:recipient
	}
	NOT = {
		has_character_modifier = promised_pilgrimage_to_clergy_modifier
	}
	trigger_if = {
		limit = {
			has_trait = kinslayer_3
			trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
				RITE = rite
				TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_3
				GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
			}
		}
		gold >= seek_indulgences_major_criminal_trait_value
	}
	trigger_else_if = {
		limit = {
			OR = {
				AND = {
					has_trait = kinslayer_2
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_2
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
				AND = {
					has_trait = witch
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:witch
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
				AND = {
					has_trait = deviant
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:deviant
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
				AND = {
					has_trait = sodomite
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:sodomite
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
			}
		}
		gold >= seek_indulgences_medium_criminal_trait_value
	}
	trigger_else_if = {
		limit = {
			OR = {
				AND = {
					has_trait = kinslayer_1
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:kinslayer_1
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
				AND = {
					has_trait = fornicator
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:fornicator
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
				AND = {
					has_trait = adulterer
					trait_is_shunned_or_criminal_in_rite_trigger = {
						RITE = rite
						TRAIT = trait:adulterer
						GENDER_CHARACTER = scope:actor
					}
				}
			}
		}
		gold >= seek_indulgences_minor_criminal_trait_value
	}
	trigger_else = {
		gold >= seek_indulgences_antipope_buy_piety_value
	}
}
scope:recipient = {
	is_alive = yes
	pam_is_antipope_trigger = yes
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.

Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (5 lines of game script)

on_accept = seek_indulgences_interaction_effect = yes
pam_offer_pilgrimage_effect = {
	ACTOR = scope:actor
	CLERIC = scope:recipient
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt.

Category: Religious actions
Cooldown: 5 years
DLC: By God Alone
In the menu: main list
ID: petition_antipope_indulgences_interaction

Source: game/common/character_interactions/pam_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient. “…” marks words the game fills in at play time (a name, a title).