Interaction · Friendly actions

Find Elder

No costThe AI weighs it

Find a Character in the recipient's Court to be your Elder

What you need

You

To send it

Nobody in … Court has higher Merit Rank than you or is below their Disciple Limit

To see it in the menu

Government allows: merit
Is not an Independent Ruler
If played by the AI:
- num_of_relation_elder = 0

The character you target

Government allows: merit

Which character you can pick

If played by the AI:
- One of these
  - The target is the other character
  - or
    All of these
    The character you target: Is played by the AI
    The other character: Is played by the AI

Find Elder is a friendly character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: Nobody in … Court has higher Merit Rank than you or is below their Disciple Limit. The AI weighs it. Reasons the AI weighs include You are too old (-10), You have the Confucian Education Trait (+10), The other character has many Disciples (-20) and 1 more. Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt.

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Quick answers (2)

What are the requirements for Find Elder in CK3?: You: Nobody in … Court has higher Merit Rank than you or is below their Disciple Limit. (patch 1.20.1.2)
How do I get the AI to accept Find Elder?: The AI weighs it. Its reasons: Age Difference, You are too old -10, You have Sinful Traits, You have Virtuous Traits, You have the Confucian Education Trait +10, The other character has many Disciples -20, You and the other character are members of the same Movement and The other character holds the Chancellery -10.

Will they accept?

The AI adds these up and accepts above zero. Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.

Reason	Amount
Base	0
Age Difference	varies
You are too old when `root.age >= 50`	-10
You have Sinful Traits when Num sinful traits more than 0	your num sinful traits × 10
You have Virtuous Traits when Num virtuous traits more than 0	your num virtuous traits × 10
You have the Confucian Education Trait when One of these Has the Trait: Confucian Education or Your religion is Confucianism	+10
The other character has many Disciples when The other character: `num_of_relation_disciple >= { value = scope:secondary_recipient.disciples_limit_value add = -1 }`	-20
You and the other character are members of the same Movement when The other character: One of these `top_participant_group:dynastic_cycle ?= scope:actor.top_participant_group:dynastic_cycle` or All of these All of these … is the Son of Heaven or a member of Pro-China Movement You: All of these … is the Son of Heaven or a member of Pro-China Movement	varies
The other character holds the Chancellery when `root.highest_held_title_tier < tier_kingdom`	-10
The other character’s opinion of you × 0.5	varies

Acceptance (ai_accept) (86 lines of game script)

base = 0
modifier = {
	add = {
		value = scope:actor.age
		subtract = scope:secondary_recipient.age
		multiply = -0.5
	}
	desc = actors_age_difference
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor.age >= 50
	add = -10
	desc = actors_age_old
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor ?= {
		num_sinful_traits > 0
	}
	add = {
		value = scope:actor.num_sinful_traits
		multiply = 10
	}
	desc = actor_has_sinful_traits
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor ?= {
		num_virtuous_traits > 0
	}
	add = {
		value = scope:actor.num_virtuous_traits
		multiply = 10
	}
	desc = actor_has_virtuous_traits
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor ?= {
		OR = {
			has_trait = confucian_education
			religion = religion:confucianism_religion
		}
	}
	add = 10
	desc = actor_has_confucian_education
}
modifier = {
	scope:secondary_recipient ?= {
		num_of_relation_disciple >= {
			value = scope:secondary_recipient.disciples_limit_value
			add = -1
		}
	}
	add = -20
	desc = secondary_recipient_has_disciples
}
modifier = {
	scope:secondary_recipient ?= {
		is_in_same_movement_as = {
			TARGET = scope:actor
		}
	}
	add = {
		value = 10
		if = {
			limit = {
				scope:secondary_recipient ?= {
					is_in_pro_hegemon_or_hegemon_movement = yes
				}
			}
			multiply = 1.5
		}
	}
	desc = actor_and_secondary_recipient_in_same_movement
}
modifier = {
	scope:secondary_recipient.primary_title ?= {
		this = title:e_minister_chancellor
	}
	scope:actor.highest_held_title_tier < tier_kingdom
	add = -10
	desc = actors_grand_chancellor
}
opinion_modifier = {
	who = scope:secondary_recipient
	opinion_target = scope:actor
	multiplier = 0.5
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt.

What happens

If they accept

The other character: Event tgp_interaction_event.0031
If
- None of these
  The new disciple: Has the new elder as elder
- The new elder:
  merit_level > scope:new_disciple.merit_level
  num_of_relation_disciple < disciples_limit_value
  Does not have the new disciple as disciple
  The new disciple: Is an Adult
Then
- The new disciple:
  If
  The old elder is not the new disciple
  Then
  remove_relation_elder = scope:old_elder
  The old elder:
  Opinion: Refused to Be My Disciple (-50)
  Event tgp_interaction_event.0030
  set_relation_elder = scope:new_elder
- The new elder:
  If
  Government uses Merit
  Is an Independent Ruler
  Minor merit gain is not 0
  Then
  Merit +30

Events it fires: tgp_interaction_event.0031, tgp_interaction_event.0030

• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists

Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (11 lines of game script)

is_available = government_allows = merit
is_independent_ruler = no
trigger_if = {
	limit = {
		is_ai = yes
	}
	num_of_relation_elder = 0
}
is_shown = scope:recipient = {
	government_allows = merit
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt.

Can be sent when (is_valid…) (38 lines of game script)

custom_tooltip = {
	text = find_elder_no_eligible_character
	scope:recipient = {
		OR = {
			eligible_for_elder_trigger = {
				DISCIPLE = scope:actor
			}
			any_courtier_or_guest = {
				eligible_for_elder_trigger = {
					DISCIPLE = scope:actor
				}
			}
			trigger_if = {
				limit = {
					exists = scope:recipient.capital_province
				}
				any_pool_character = {
					province = scope:recipient.capital_province
					eligible_for_elder_trigger = {
						DISCIPLE = scope:actor
					}
				}
			}
			trigger_if = {
				limit = {
					scope:actor = {
						is_ai = no
					}
				}
				any_vassal = {
					eligible_for_elder_trigger = {
						DISCIPLE = scope:actor
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt.

Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (12 lines of game script)

on_accept = scope:secondary_recipient = {
	trigger_event = tgp_interaction_event.0031
}
scope:actor = {
	show_as_tooltip = {
		set_elder_relation_effect = {
			ELDER = scope:secondary_recipient
			DISCIPLE = scope:actor
			MERIT = minor_merit_gain
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt.

Category: Friendly actions
Cooldown: 1 year
In the menu: under More…
ID: find_elder_interaction

Source: game/common/character_interactions/10_tgp_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient.