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Ask Liege for Troops

variesInfluenceThe AI weighs it (the answer is partly random)not in the character menu

Send the recipient a request to assign you additional troops from their own armies or the Provincial Army of another Governor

What you need

You

To send it

  • There are no Title Men-at-Arms available
  • Is not at War with their Liege

  • If

    • You: Is played by the AI

    Then

    • None of these

      • The character you target: Has “admin request troop cooldown” (a variable the game's script sets)
  • … does not have any Title Men-at-Arms available as they are used by someone else
  • The target:
    • Title tier at least scope:recipient.main administrative tier
    • The … is not a Noble Family Title
    • holder.top_liege = scope:recipient
    • holder != scope:actor
    • Any title maa regiment:

To see it in the menu

  • you has administrative government mechanic
  • Government does not allow: merit
  • Is a Governor
  • If played by the AI:

    • None of these

      • Your Government is Celestial
      • Any maa regiment:
        • … is title regiment
        • regiment_owning_title ?= { holder = root }
  • Is an Independent Ruler
  • Is a direct vassal of the target

The character you target

  • they has administrative government mechanic
  • Government does not allow: merit
  • Is an Independent Ruler

Which title you can pick

Ask Liege for Troops is an uncategorized character interaction in Crusader Kings III. You need: There are no Title Men-at-Arms available and Is not at War with their Liege. The AI weighs it (the answer is partly random). Reasons the AI weighs include Paranoid (-20), Trusting (+10), Weak Hook used (+50) and 11 more. It costs Influence (varies). Patch 1.20.1.2, from game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt.

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Quick answers (3)
What are the requirements for Ask Liege for Troops in CK3?
You: There are no Title Men-at-Arms available and Is not at War with their Liege. (patch 1.20.1.2)
How do I get the AI to accept Ask Liege for Troops?
The AI weighs it (the answer is partly random). Its reasons: Opinion, Paranoid -20, Trusting +10, Weak Hook used +50, The recipient dare not refuse a Dominant Family +100, You are not at War -20, Your Province has Military Administration +20, Your Province has Frontier Administration +30, Your Province has Naval Administration +25, The recipient owns these troops and might need them -50, Family Attribute +30, Family Attribute +20, Family Attribute +10, … is at War and needs … troops -200, … is at War and needs … troops -50 and You already command additional Title Men-at-Arms.
How much does Ask Liege for Troops cost?
Influence (varies) (patch 1.20.1.2).

Will they accept?

The AI adds these up and accepts above zero; near zero the answer is partly random (ai_maybe). Reasons in italics are the script's, with no label in the game.

ReasonAmount
Base-20
Opinionvaries
Paranoid
when
-20
Trusting
when
+10
Weak Hook used
when
+50
The recipient dare not refuse a Dominant Family
when
  • The option “dominant family” is chosen
+100
You are not at War
when
  • Is at not War
-20
Your Province has Military Administration
when
  • vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_military
+20
Your Province has Frontier Administration
when
  • vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_frontier
+30
Your Province has Naval Administration
when
  • vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_naval
+25
The recipient owns these troops and might need them
when
  • The target:
    • holder = scope:recipient
  • The character you target: Is at not War
-50
Family Attribute
when
  • Your house:
    • has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_3
+30
Family Attribute
when
  • Your house:
    • has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_2
+20
Family Attribute
when
  • Your house:
    • has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_1
+10
… is at War and needs … troops
when
  • The target:
    • holder = scope:recipient
  • The character you target: Is at War
-200
… is at War and needs … troops
when
  • The target:
    • Their holder: Is at War
    • holder != scope:recipient
-50
You already command additional Title Men-at-Arms
when
  • Any held title › Any controlled title maa regiment:
    • regiment_owning_title = { holder != scope:actor }
varies
Acceptance (ai_accept) (139 lines of game script)
base = -20
opinion_modifier = {
	who = scope:recipient
	opinion_target = scope:actor
	desc = AI_SIMPLE_OPINION_REASON
}
modifier = {
	add = -20
	scope:recipient = {
		has_trait = paranoid
	}
	desc = INTERACTION_PARANOID
}
modifier = {
	add = 10
	scope:recipient = {
		has_trait = trusting
	}
	desc = INTERACTION_TRUSTING
}
modifier = {
	scope:hook = yes
	add = 50
	desc = SCHEME_WEAK_HOOK_USED
}
modifier = {
	scope:dominant_family = yes
	add = 100
	desc = your_house_is_dominant_reason
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor = {
		is_at_war = no
	}
	add = -20
	desc = IS_NOT_AT_WAR_REASON
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor = {
		vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_military
	}
	add = 20
	desc = IS_A_MILITARY_THEME
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor = {
		vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_frontier
	}
	add = 30
	desc = IS_A_FRONTIER_THEME
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor = {
		vassal_contract_has_flag = admin_theme_naval
	}
	add = 25
	desc = IS_A_NAVAL_THEME
}
modifier = {
	scope:recipient = {
		is_at_war = no
	}
	scope:target = {
		holder = scope:recipient
	}
	add = -50
	desc = TARGETS_OWN_TROOPS_REASON
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor.house ?= {
		has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_3
	}
	add = increased_request_troops_acceptance_3_value
	desc = family_attribute_desc_with_value
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor.house ?= {
		has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_2
	}
	add = increased_request_troops_acceptance_2_value
	desc = family_attribute_desc_with_value
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor.house ?= {
		has_house_aspiration_parameter = increased_request_troops_acceptance_1
	}
	add = increased_request_troops_acceptance_1_value
	desc = family_attribute_desc_with_value
}
modifier = {
	scope:recipient = {
		is_at_war = yes
	}
	scope:target = {
		holder = scope:recipient
	}
	add = -200
	desc = TARGET_IS_AT_WAR_REASON
}
modifier = {
	scope:target = {
		holder = {
			is_at_war = yes
		}
		holder != scope:recipient
	}
	add = -50
	desc = TARGET_IS_AT_WAR_REASON
}
modifier = {
	scope:actor = {
		any_held_title = {
			any_controlled_title_maa_regiment = {
				regiment_owning_title = {
					holder != scope:actor
				}
			}
		}
	}
	add = {
		value = 0
		scope:actor = {
			every_held_title = {
				every_controlled_title_maa_regiment = {
					limit = {
						regiment_owning_title = {
							holder != scope:actor
						}
					}
					add = {
						value = maa_size
						multiply = -10
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}
	desc = CONTROLS_EXTRA_TROOPS_REASON
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt.

What happens

If they accept

  • If

    • You use a Hook
    • You: Has a usable Hook on the target

    Then

    • You: Use a Hook on the target

  • If

    • The option “dominant family” is chosen

    Then

    • You: Influence -60
  • If played by the AI: Opinion: Grateful (+10)

  • If

    • title:h_china.holder ?= scope:recipient
    • Any character situation:

    Then

  • The character you target › If played by the AI: … approves your request for troops
  • The target:
    • transfer_owned_maa_control = scope:actor.primary_title

If they refuse

  • If played by the AI: Opinion: Disappointed (-20)
  • The character you target:
    • If played by the AI: … denies your request for troops

    • If

      • The option “dominant family” is chosen

      Then

      • Influence -60

Options when sending

  • Use a Hook
  • Leverage position of Dominant Family

• the game's own tooltip text · ◦ our reading of the script line · code the script where neither exists

Who can use it and sees it (is_available, is_shown) (30 lines of game script)
is_available = government_has_mechanic = administrative
NOT = {
	government_allows = merit
}
is_governor = yes
trigger_if = {
	limit = {
		is_ai = yes
	}
	NOR = {
		government_has_flag = government_is_celestial
		any_maa_regiment = {
			is_title_maa_regiment = yes
			regiment_owning_title ?= {
				holder = root
			}
		}
	}
}
top_liege != this
is_shown = scope:actor = {
	liege = scope:recipient
}
scope:recipient = {
	government_has_mechanic = administrative
	NOT = {
		government_allows = merit
	}
	is_independent_ruler = yes
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt.

Can be sent when (is_valid…) (46 lines of game script)
custom_tooltip = {
	text = admin_troops_not_available_desc
	scope:recipient = {
		OR = {
			any_vassal = {
				any_maa_regiment = {
					is_title_maa_regiment = yes
				}
				any_held_title = {
					any_owned_title_maa_regiment = {
						regiment_owning_title = prev
					}
				}
			}
			any_maa_regiment = {
				is_title_maa_regiment = yes
				regiment_owning_title = {
					holder = scope:recipient
				}
			}
		}
	}
}
scope:actor = {
	is_at_war_with_liege = no
}
trigger_if = {
	limit = {
		scope:actor = {
			is_ai = yes
		}
	}
	NOT = {
		scope:recipient = {
			has_variable = admin_request_troop_cooldown
		}
	}
}
custom_tooltip = {
	text = admin_troops_target_title_controls_maa_desc
	scope:target = {
		any_owned_title_maa_regiment = {
			regiment_controlling_title = scope:target
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt.

Effects (on_send, on_accept, on_decline) (128 lines of game script)
on_send = 
on_accept = if = {
	limit = {
		scope:hook = yes
		scope:actor = {
			has_usable_hook = scope:recipient
		}
	}
	scope:actor = {
		use_hook = scope:recipient
	}
}
if = {
	limit = {
		scope:dominant_family = yes
	}
	scope:actor = {
		change_influence = medium_influence_loss
	}
}
scope:actor = {
	if = {
		limit = {
			is_ai = yes
		}
		add_opinion = {
			target = scope:recipient
			modifier = grateful_opinion
			opinion = 10
		}
	}
	hidden_effect = {
		send_interface_message = {
			type = msg_admin_provincial_army_request_accepted
			title = msg_admin_provincial_army_request_accepted.title
			left_icon = scope:recipient
			right_icon = scope:target
			show_as_tooltip = {
				scope:target = {
					transfer_owned_maa_control = scope:actor.primary_title
				}
			}
		}
	}
	tgp_activate_catalyst_against_hegemon_effect = {
		HEGEMON = scope:recipient
		CATALYST = catalyst_hegemon_influenced_by_interaction
	}
}
scope:recipient = {
	if = {
		limit = {
			is_ai = yes
		}
		custom_tooltip = request_emperor_title_troops_approve_desc
	}
	if = {
		limit = {
			NOT = {
				has_variable = admin_request_troop_cooldown
			}
		}
		set_variable = {
			name = admin_request_troop_cooldown
			years = 2
		}
	}
}
scope:target = {
	transfer_owned_maa_control = scope:actor.primary_title
	set_variable = {
		name = title_troops_lent_out
		years = admin_troops_reclaim_cost_cooldown_value
	}
}
on_decline = scope:actor = {
	if = {
		limit = {
			is_ai = yes
		}
		add_opinion = {
			target = scope:recipient
			modifier = disappointed_opinion
			opinion = -20
		}
	}
	hidden_effect = {
		send_interface_message = {
			type = msg_admin_provincial_army_request_denied
			title = msg_admin_provincial_army_request_denied.title
			desc = msg_admin_provincial_army_request_denied.desc
			left_icon = scope:recipient
			right_icon = scope:target
		}
	}
}
scope:recipient = {
	if = {
		limit = {
			is_ai = yes
		}
		custom_tooltip = request_emperor_title_troops_deny_desc
	}
	if = {
		limit = {
			scope:dominant_family = yes
		}
		change_influence = medium_influence_loss
	}
	if = {
		limit = {
			NOT = {
				has_variable = admin_request_troop_cooldown
			}
		}
		set_variable = {
			name = admin_request_troop_cooldown
			years = 5
		}
	}
	else = {
		remove_variable = admin_request_troop_cooldown
		set_variable = {
			name = admin_request_troop_cooldown
			years = 5
		}
	}
}

As written in game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt.

Category
Uncategorized actions
Cost: Influence
varies
Again on the same character
after 1 year
In the menu
no (opened from elsewhere)
ID
request_emperor_title_troops_interaction

Source: game/common/character_interactions/06_ep3_interactions.txt and the English localisation, Crusader Kings III 1.20.1.2. “You” is the character who sends it (scope:actor, or a puppet acting for you); “the character you target” is the recipient.

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